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<!--Generated by Squarespace Site Server v5.0.0 (http://www.squarespace.com/) on Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:04:12 GMT--><rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" xmlns:rss="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:admin="http://webns.net/mvcb/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:cc="http://web.resource.org/cc/"><rss:channel rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/"><rss:title>Debatable Politics Updates</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/</rss:link><rss:description></rss:description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><dc:date>2008-11-21T17:04:12Z</dc:date><admin:generatorAgent rdf:resource="http://www.squarespace.com/">Squarespace Site Server v5.0.0 (http://www.squarespace.com/)</admin:generatorAgent><rss:items><rdf:Seq><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/4/20/the-democratic-party-and-the-presidential-election-nigtmare.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/20/hillary-campaign-on-your-merits-or-step-aside.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/20/huh.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/19/on-wisconsin.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/17/what-if-hillary-wins-the-nomination.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/17/for-you-numbers-junkies.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/16/borrowing-barack-obamas-message.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/15/clinton-as-the-candidate-of-solutions.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/14/democratic-party-delegate-counting.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/14/the-clinton-legacy.html"/></rdf:Seq></rss:items></rss:channel><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/4/20/the-democratic-party-and-the-presidential-election-nigtmare.html"><rss:title>The Democratic Party and the Presidential Election Nigtmare</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/4/20/the-democratic-party-and-the-presidential-election-nigtmare.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-04-20T21:02:04Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been an interesting few weeks watching events unfold as they have during this long wait between Ohio &amp; Texas and the Pennsylvania primary. Clinton seemed to have won the day, despite the fact that Obama actually collected more delegates in Texas than did Hillary. The Clinton campaign's elbows have grown even sharper since, as have the Obama campaign's.</p><p>There still is a marked difference in approach. Despite what the Clinton campaign believes, that is the advantage Obama has over them at this point, and it doers matter a great deal. The Republican Party learned something in the post- Watergate era of American politics. Character counts. Jimmy Carter won on this score and was also defeated because his outlook was painted as too pessimistic. Mondale was crushed largely because Reagan projected a stronger character than did Fritz.</p><p>Dukakis was a PR nightmare, from the ridiculous tank ride to the thoughtful answer to the infamous &quot;your wife was just raped and beaten to death, what would you do?&quot; question to Willie Horton. Gore was painted as essentially a self aggrandizing liar for his claim&nbsp;about 'inventing the internet'. Kerry was defeated because he seemed to weak, he would not/could not defend himself against people lying about his stellar military service, how could he possibly stand up to Al Qaeda.</p><p>The Clinton's are the only one's to have survived this line of attack. Why did this stuff work against the others but not the Clintons?</p><p>I was all of 10 when Jimmy Carter was defeted by Ronald Reagan. The first stirrings of my awareness of the larger world were beginning at that point.&nbsp;I remember the new flags that were raised each day the hostages were held captive, not to be taken down until they were released from the bondage&nbsp;of their Iranian radicals who had stormed our embassy. These flags becoming tattered and sunbleached as each successive week passed by. This alone created an almost inevitable sense around Ronald Reagan's campaign. Even I seemed to recognize it at the time, despite being all of 10 years of age. </p><p>(None of this means that I do not hold Jimmy Carter in some high regard, after all he has been proven correct on many of the issues we are wrestling with today. He is far from perfect. He has done and said a few things that puzzle me, but by and large he has been proven right on things like energy and so on. But being right does not mean you will win the Presidency, sort of the theme of this entry.)</p><p>Mondale was obviously a bad choice of candidate. He was Carter's VP for cripes sake, this is just an example of Democrats being stupid. He seemed like a nice enough guy, but, come on, he was second fiddle in a nightmarish Presidency.</p><p>Dukakis was doomed the moment he put that helmet on. People will not vote for a President that looks patently ridiculous. It just won't happen in modern politics. People might contend that Bush looks ridiculous with his puffed up, arms held wide, macho swagger bit. I am inclined to agree, since he really is nothing more than a rich kids son who has had everything handed to him his entire life, including the Presidency. However, the democrats failed to point this out, so his tough talk and tough walk sold many people.</p><p>Gore lost (by lost, I mean it really was only close enough for the Republicans to steal because)&nbsp;only in part due to the 'I invented the internet' thing. I never liked Gore, nor the Clintons for that matter. I went to work for Bill Bradley because I feared a Gore candidacy would lose and even if he won he would continue to lead us down the wrong path, a path I will outline later, in another entry, because it ties to my dislike of the Clintons as well. He lost because he ran a primary campaign, 'Stay and Fight', in the general election. It was the right message to bring down Bradley, it was failed out of the gate against Bush who ran the classic outsider campaign even though he had direct access to the White house for 12 of the previous 20 years.</p><p>Finally, we are familiar with the Kerry defeat. The number one lesson is never, never let an attack just sit out there unresponded to.</p><p>So how did the Clinton's break this trend amongst Democratic hopefuls? Easy, they played the character card. Bush I became the effete, elitist, out of touch with the common man guy who did not understand the financial plight of middle America. I remember Bush whining about the fact that some were calling him a wimp. Him a WWII fighter pilot that was shot down over the Pacific, the man who led the CIA in the 70s, the man who seemed to re-establish American military might with the successful Gulf War I was a wimp. Much like Kerry, Bush I did not respond to that very well and was beaten by Clinton.</p><p>The Clinton's beat Dole largely on a purely political level. Bill deftly tied every negative surrrounding his presidency, the 95 government shutdown in particular, solidly around the Republican congress' neck. When the Republicans nominated Dole, a member of Congress, it was lights out on that race.</p><p>This history is relevant to this race. Clinton's main argument in what is left of her campaign is that she knows this character thing will play huge and that Barack Obama falls into the classic republican trap if nominated. Of course the point she is missing is that, unlike these other Deomcratic candidates, Barack Obama is not running on being right on the issues, his whole campaign is about character and leadership.</p><p>David Brook's on Meet the Press sort of acknowledged this this morning when he expressed dissappointment that Obama did not respond the bittergate with a major address on religion and/or class in America as he had handled the Wright scandal with his speech on race. brook's may well be correct, Obama would do better with cross over Republicans and independents, if he took that more expansive approach, problem is he is trying to win a Democrat only primary in Pennsylvania right now, save those major addresses when the nation is really paying attention in the fall. At this point he just needs to stave off the image of being an elitist (he plainly is not an elitist, but image is key).</p><p>What is the one common attribute that each of the failing Democratic presidential campaigns share? Their policy issues line up better with what Americans really want than their Republican opponents. People don't really care about that though, send policy makers to Congress, they want leaders in the White House. Leaders must relate at some level to those they aspire to lead. So when the Republicans bring down a Democrat far superior on the issues Democrats are almost always dismayed and bewildered. I had that sensation in 2004, although it was over the shock of the ban a gay marriage being encoded in the Oregon Constitution that left me in that state, not the fact that Kerry lost.</p><p>Barack Obama breaks the old mold though. While he is right on the issues, that is not his main case for the White House. His main case is that the way things are done needs to change. Hillary's main argument, on the otherhand, is that she knows how to get policy passed, she has the exprience needed to navigate the system. Obama offers a vision of a better way, Hillary offers up 35 years of experience navigating the broken system.</p><p>Those who offer leadership, a real vision for how they would lead will always do better than those who offer the ability to pass various policies. It is the nature of the office and I would bet a normal reaction to what the two types of candidates are offering. the candidate offering their leadership, their vision to the voter inherently seeks to bring people together to get the job done. The policy maker argument fails because voters know that policy makers fundamentally decide who gets what, thus dividing people. it might be true that all Presidents make the policy makers choice everyday, but offering that up as leadership fails the test everytime.</p><p>Axelrod and Clintons new campaign strategist (gehrin?) had an exchange that clearly demonstrates that Obama gets that in a way the old Democrats don't. Axelrod spent just a moment explaining Obama's vision for changing the way things are done in Washington while Clinton's man fired back, 'which one of Clinton's policies do not represent change from the current administration?&quot; That is not the point at all. I think this is the seminal reason Hillary's campaign has likely failed. They ran their campaign as if offering all the correct policies on all the correct issues combined with her years of service meant that she was both offering the change people would be looking for (different policies) with the ability to navigate the system.</p><p>People across the country, probably for most of our history, view goverment as a somewhat disfunctional system. Running as the candidate knows how to manipulate that system when your opponent is talking about plowing that system under is not a winning proposition.</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/20/hillary-campaign-on-your-merits-or-step-aside.html"><rss:title>Hillary, Campaign on your Merits or Step Aside</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/20/hillary-campaign-on-your-merits-or-step-aside.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-02-20T15:16:12Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My plan this morning was to post on the delegate situation after last night's victories for Obama. After all, as Chuck todd pointed out, in order for Clinton to catch Obama in elected delegates after last night she needs to win roughly 65% of the remaining delegates. Conversely Obama can actually clear 2025 if he were to pull 65% of the remaining delegates. There are a few other numbers that are interesting, but I will save those for tomorrow.</p><p>Watching the coverage last night was heartwarming. Wisconsin voters soundly rejected the string of negative attacks that the Clinton campaign spun out the last 4 days. Good news for the party.</p><p>Of course, knowing nothing else, the Clinton campaign came out with quotes and analysis&nbsp;like this, paraphrasing from news coverage.</p><blockquote><p>The thing we learned tonight is that Obama's negatives can only go up. ~anonymous Clinton Campaign source</p></blockquote><p>or</p><blockquote><p>In general, the fact that we narrowed the gap (not losing by 25% as she did in the Potomac primaries) shows that our attacks ads paid some dividends. ~anonymous Clinton Campaign source</p></blockquote><p>I know this is a strange concept to Clintonites, but the Democratic Party does not need you tearing down this man right now. Face it, he ran a better campaign. There must be a certain amount of hubris for the Hillary, we will win it all by February 5th, crowd.</p><p>That being said if all you have to offer is a string of scurrulous attacks it is time to step down. Normally, I would not have called for this, but, when your campaign has run out of their own ideas, and need to resort to solely scorched earth politics to win you must realize that it is time to step aside. This is true particularly since this is a primary and their are larger issues at stake in this election.</p><p>Besides, the Clinton campaign is in a trap. You can not win by emphasizing your negatives. Running attack ads will back fire on her. The image of the Clintons includes a healthy suspicion that they will always take a win-at-all-costs strategy. History bears this out since their Presidency ushered in the collapse of Democratic party dominance of the legislative branch that lasted nearly 60 years. Attacks will remind voters of this. They will not help her win, all they will do at this point is weaken Obama and anger the party.</p><p>The party needs Hillary to maintain her strength and dignity so they can come together win the White House, widen their margins in the House and Senate and promote an agenda the party longs for and the country needs to have enacted.</p><p>Hillary, please stand aside.</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/20/huh.html"><rss:title>Huh?</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/20/huh.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-02-20T01:47:05Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Clinton supporter on tv just said there have not been any attacks. Your campaign accused Obama of a crime!</p>
]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/19/on-wisconsin.html"><rss:title>On Wisconsin</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/19/on-wisconsin.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-02-19T16:40:24Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="full-image-float-left"><img style="width: 127px; height: 137px" alt="wisky.jpg" src="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/storage/wisky.jpg" /></span>Well today Wisconsin voters get to decide whether or not they feel politics as usual will win or not. The Clinton campaign has unleashed a full frontal assault in the old style slash and burn politics. Obama, doing as all politicians seem to do, including Clinton, lifted a few lines from a supporters speech. Obviously not the best idea while under the Clinton microscope.</p><p>This reminds me of Jason Alexander on Bill Maher many years ago when he said the Republicans can make something out of nothing. Plagiarism is a hefty charge and deals with stealing anothers intellectual property and presenting it as your own. I suppose in a court of law this could be argued from the Clinton perspective, however, Deval Patrick himself, the originator of the phrases in question, has stated that he and Barack swap elements of their speeches all of the time and that the phrasing Obama used was discussed as a counter to the tired empty rhetoric charges of the Clinton campaign.</p><p>All this dust up really reveals is the slash and burn politics of the past 16 years that the Clintons use. The same old gotcha politics the Republicans have been playing for the last 14 years. Clinton supporters will say things like 'politics is a contact sport,' or even, 'gow up, we live in the real world'. They are right, this is what was successful across the political landscape for the past 16 years. One of the major themes Obama is trying to make is that we do not have to accept that method, we don't have to tear our opponents down to win a political fight.</p><p>The irony of all this is that the Clinton campaign has been parroting some of Barack Obama's speech routinely. She was up on stage chanting, 'yes we will' which is a direct rip off of Obama. I have heard the same theme music at the opening of her events. She has made the same arguments for change and of course the press' favorite, 'I'm fired up and ready to go,' which was an Obama standard from the outset. it takes a certain amount of chutzpah knowing all of this for the Clinton campaign to level these charges against Obama that is for certain.</p><p>Wisconsin weighs in today with their primary election. The polls are all over the map, the demographics can be viewed as suiting each candidate. This night more than any so far is an indicator of whether the Clinton supporters are right and scorched earth politics&nbsp;are acceptable and is still the way to win an election&nbsp;or whether that sad narrative will be repudiated by the voters in Wisonsin.</p><p>I know the trail will only get rougher after tonite either way, and the Republicans have no compunction on tearing down their opposition, I just believe that what our country needs right now is a different way. That is what Barack Obama is offering voters in this election.</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/17/what-if-hillary-wins-the-nomination.html"><rss:title>What if Hillary Wins the Nomination?</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/17/what-if-hillary-wins-the-nomination.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-02-17T20:51:14Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="full-image-float-right"><img alt="Hillary%20Wins.jpg" src="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/storage/Hillary%20Wins.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1203288989046" /></span>After cruising the boards much of the afternoon yesterday I found it surprising how paranoid the Clinton seem to be about Obama supporters not voting for Hillary in the general election. Not that that is not a good question to ask, but the level of angst does not really help their case much. The only reason this is an issue is the nature of the Clinton campaign itself.</p><p>The Clinton campaign has gone out of its way to drive a wedge between potential Obama voters, Obama supporters and what they perceive as the potential Clinton voter, Clinton supporters. I understand why the Clinton campaign is doing this, it is how the last 4&nbsp;presidential elections have been won, with the Clintons winning 2 of those contests.</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/17/for-you-numbers-junkies.html"><rss:title>For you numbers junkies</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/17/for-you-numbers-junkies.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-02-17T20:44:43Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love numbers, I work with numbers all day long. I have long wanted to do the kind of analysis of the numbers to understand what is really happening with the electorate this year. the problem is I have not had the time to do real number crunching. A few simple, speculative kinds of things, but no real analysis. I finally found a site where someone has taken the time to break down some of the numbers. Here is the link:</p><p><a class="offsite-link-inline" href="http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2008/02/who-supports-ob.html" target="_blank">Brendan Nyhan</a></p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/16/borrowing-barack-obamas-message.html"><rss:title>Borrowing Barack Obama's Message</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/16/borrowing-barack-obamas-message.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-02-16T21:13:54Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="full-image-float-left"><img style="width: 100px; height: 150px" alt="ObamaPoster.jpg" src="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/storage/ObamaPoster.jpg" /></span>They say imitation is the finest form of flattery. Barack Obama must be blushing. Hillary Clinton has launched a new twist on her solutions message, one that sounds incredibly familiar.</p><p>Yes we will!</p><p>This is somewhat clever, although I think most people will spot the source rather quickly. The crowd she rolled it our too in fact seemed a little surprised by it. Hillary launched her new slogan at a rally where she ended a string of policy statements with salute to the greatness of America (always a fantastic idea) followed by, &quot;Yes we will! Yes we will! Yes we will! Yes we will! Yes we will! Yes we will!&quot;</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/15/clinton-as-the-candidate-of-solutions.html"><rss:title>Clinton as the Candidate of Solutions</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/15/clinton-as-the-candidate-of-solutions.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-02-15T16:41:23Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hillary campaign has rolled out a new theme, Hillary is all about solutions. It is an interesting tack I suppose, but it begs the question, prove it?</p><p>This is particularly hard to argue when you look at their track record for finding solutions to things that rank high on the Democratic platform. They reformed welfare, not a high priority for Democrats at the time. </p><p>They balanced the budget, kudos on that.</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/14/democratic-party-delegate-counting.html"><rss:title>Democratic Party Delegate Counting</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/14/democratic-party-delegate-counting.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-02-14T21:28:05Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an exciting primary season! It really has been the best month and a half to be a political junkie. There is one big myth bouncing around the airwaves that I want to dispell however.</p><p>That myth is that the Democratic party process is so muddled this year because of the proportional system. This is simply not true. The race would be just as close,&nbsp;even closer,&nbsp;if every contest were winner take all.</p><p>So far there have been 2168 delegates up for grabs through state primaries and caucuses. By some estimates, (because of how delegates are selected these numbers are a little murky), Obama leads Clinton by a narrow margin:</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/14/the-clinton-legacy.html"><rss:title>The Clinton Legacy</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.debatablepolitics.com/main/2008/2/14/the-clinton-legacy.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Donald Braden</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-02-14T20:48:53Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary Clinton has spent a lot of time on the campaign trail touting her experience, highlighting the good old times for Democrats under Bill Clinton. I got to give it the Clinton's they did a remarkable job of hanging on to power, under a Democratic Party banner no less, despite incredible odds. The Republican hate machine attacked attacked and attacked and yet they survived.</p><p>I could never really understand why the Republicans hated the Clintons so much. Sure they could spin their way out of anything, but why did it draw such animus.&nbsp;Then Hillary lost Iowa.</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item></rdf:RDF>